Morning Walk Conversation
with His Divine Grace A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada
Los Angeles, June 14, 1972

Prabhupada: Maya-sukhaya, for flickering happiness arranging huge paraphernalia, just like for sporting, restaurants(?), so many things. Maya-sukhaya bharam udvahato vimudhan [SB 7.9.43]. No use. There is no use, but sporting, for frivolous sporting as we saw yesterday. Beginning from the morning working, so many people are engaged, but they do not know the value of arranging mangala-arati. They do not know. (laughter) Maya-sukhaya bharam udvahato vimudhan [SB 7.9.43]. Making huge arrangement. What for? Only flickering happiness, that’s all. Vimudha, rascals. Therefore, Prahlada Maharaja says, “I don’t think for myself; I am simply anxious for these rascals who are engaged in huge affair for some flickering happiness.’’ Soce tato vimukha-cetasa, maya-sukhaya bharam udvahato vimudhan [SB 7.9.43]. (chants japa) [break] Construct a very nice temple in this open park, people will come in the morning and they will see the mangala-arati, take prasadam. That would have been good for this life and the next life. And what are they doing?

Atreya Rsi(?): They’re simply miserable, Prabhupada.

Prabhupada: They’re going to be cats and dogs and trees. They don’t believe that there is life after death, so they think that “Whatever we have got now, let us enjoy sense.’’ And the university education is giving them facility, “Yes, take education and gratify your senses from the age of twelve years.’’ And at the last stage they think that “I would have liked that one would have shot me down on my head.’’ What that old lady was talking?

Pancadravida(?): Oh, yes. (laughs)

Devotee (2): She said if someone else didn’t shoot her, she would. She’d just do herself in.

Prabhupada: Hopeless life. Maya-sukhaya. Because they waste their time simply for flickering happiness, in future everything is zero. Sunyavadi, nirvisesa-sunyavadi. Sunyavadi means whose ultimate goal is zero. Pascatya-desa, Western countries. Nirvisesa-sunyavadi. (chants japa) Every one of you should take this movement very seriously and save your country. Misguided. Andha yathandhair upaniyamanas. (laughs) Blind men. This Nixon is a rascal number one, and he’s the president. Just see. They have no other selection. All the people are rascals, and they must select one rascal to become their guider, another big rascal. (devotees chant japa) [break] …from Mayapur?

Devotee (Karandhara?)(3): Yes. The one you’ve written, from the old Book Trust?

Prabhupada: No, no. They have sent one account.

Devotee (3): Oh, yes, I reviewed that.

Prabhupada: Huh?

Devotee (3): I reviewed it. Yes.

Prabhupada: Do you think it is all right?

Devotee (3): Appears to be in order.

Prabhupada: Huh?

Devotee (3): Everything appears to be in order.

Prabhupada: That’s all right. Anything irregular, you should immediately ask them to explain. At least there must be some check.

Devotee (3): I sent Bhavananda a letter yesterday explaining that would be the last of the cash; the rest would come in books.

Prabhupada: Books you can take as much you like. There is (indistinct)?

Devotee (3): Yes.

Prabhupada: Just like all the men, they are spending two thousand rupees for maintenance. They must work. And if they go with the books to any gentleman, they’ll take. Maya-sukhaya udvahato vimudhan. [break] Americans are giving so much service, knowledge. Arrange everything. They are giving already; simply they should be distributed through us—powdered milk, grains. People will feel so much obliged, “Oh, these American people are giving us knowledge and food.’’ Practically they’ll see how to become Krsna conscious—by our aratika, by our kirtana, by our behavior, by our character. Not only in India—everywhere. This is real service to the human.

Atreya Rsi(?): The government is spending millions of dollars to control the drug problem. In every city there are heroin addicts and all kinds of addicts, and they are very perplexed because there is no way to control.

Prabhupada: This is the only way.

Atreya Rsi(?): This is the only way, but they are not willing to listen. Recently I was in Washington talking to the officials. Our company is making a project for the government, $7,000,000 to investigate what is the best way. And every way it costs thousands of dollars for each person, and it’s not even guaranteed. And they take them out of heroin and they are putting them on methadone or some other chemical drug, and that’s their method. They are spending thousands and thousands of dollars and the person goes back to addiction after several years. No success. Our program costs nothing, and the politicians don’t want to listen.

Prabhupada: No. Their policy is that they want to keep the people in that way—rascals and fools—then they’ll vote and they’ll enjoy the political power. That is their policy. Actually they do not want to see their countrymen elevated good character. They don’t want to see. If the people become… Just like the British government in their time, they wanted to give education. Their education means A-B-C-D— half, mediocre, so that the government may be run on. They require clerks, servants, so much, not high education. As soon as there was question of high education, they stopped. And actually it so happened that as soon as the Indian people became highly educated and they learned the history of the world, they kicked them out. So these people, these rascals, Nixon and company, they want to keep the people in ignorance so that they’ll get vote and enjoy. If the people become intelligent brahmanas, then immediately he’ll be kicked out. What is his value? He has no value. This is policy. They don’t want to see that people become elevated in knowledge. That is not their policy. Therefore, they do not agree. Actually they are seeing that “These Hare Krsna people, they’re so nice character, they’re religion, God conscious, so if all people become like this, then where we are?’’ Because as soon as people become Krsna conscious, they’ll noncooperate with the slaughterhouse, liquor industry, gambling, illicit sex. They will noncooperate. Then the whole plan of civilization will be collapsed.

Atreya Rsi(?): Their biggest industry is the war industry.

Prabhupada: Yes.

Atreya Rsi(?): War, killing.

Prabhupada: So, how they can (indistinct)? They do not know and do not actually want to see people enlightened. It is not their policy. It is simply make some show. Show means spend another set-up amount, investigation. Their men, the government men, they’ll get money, that’s all.

Atreya Rsi(?): Jaya.

Prabhupada: And finished. Engage some rascal report. This is going on.

Atreya Rsi(?): Exactly, exactly.

Prabhupada: Very dangerous.

Atreya Rsi(?): They are all thieves, Prabhupada.

Prabhupada: Eh?

Atreya Rsi: Thieves, stealing from each other.

Prabhupada: That’s all. They don’t want to see people very enlightened. “It is folly to be wise where ignorance is bliss.’’ But at least how to become wise, that injunction has been given to you. Now you try to save the country, how to do it. These people will not be. You’ll have to educate the people, and they’ll vote you to the senators, president, and then your country will be nice. Just like by Kuruksetra, Krsna smashed all Duryodhana and company, and He posted Yudhisthira Maharaja. That is the Krsna’s politics. He wanted to smash all these demons and have His own men posted on the royal throne. When Kali could not penetrate into the daily behavior of the people, he planned killing of Pariksit Maharaja. So, one Kali brahmana cursed him to death, for no fault practically. Therefore the brahmanas of this age, they are condemned. The so-called caste brahmanas, they’re condemned. That is lamented by the father of the boy who cursed Pariksit Maharaja. (japa) (end)