Srimad-Bhagavatam 1.3.7
by His Divine Grace A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada
Los Angeles, September 13, 1972

Pradyumna: (leads chanting, etc.)

dvitiyam tu bhavayasya rasatala-gatam mahim uddharisyann upadatta yajnesah saukaram vapuh

Translation: “The supreme enjoyer of all sacrifices accepted the incarnation of a boar, the second incarnation, and for the welfare of the earth He lifted the earth up from the nether regions of the universe.”

Prabhupada: So this universe, this universe is filled up with water, half. Whatever we are seeing, this is only half, like this. The other half we cannot see. So within this water, sometimes that Hiranyaksa demon drowned this whole earth within this water. So at the present moment we cannot find such demons, but there were demons like that. The whole planetary system is floating, but there may be some demon who can take one of them and put within the water. The planets are floating; that is known to everyone. We can see, actually, that such a big, gigantic mass… Even the sun, which is fourteen hundred thousand times bigger than this earth, that is also floating in the outer space. The support is ananta. They say “law of gravitation”; we say Sankarsana. Sankarsana. So He is holding every planet, and it is said that all these universes are resting on the hood of Sesa-naga just like a small grain of mustard.

So when we speak of “God is great,” we cannot imagine how great He is. We apply frog philosophy, Dr. Frog’s philosophy. Dr. Frog thinks, because he is in the well of three feet, if he is given the information, “Oh, there is a big mass of water, Atlantic Ocean,” he cannot believe it. He will think in terms of the well. The well is three feet. So he may think, “All right, Atlantic Ocean may be four feet. All right, five feet. Come on. All right, six feet.” So this Dr. Frog’s philosophy. The so-called rascal philosophers and scientists, they are calculating God’s creation. One of the universes is resting on Anantadeva’s hood just like a mustard seed. Not only that…

yasyaika-nisvasita-kalam athavalambya jivanti loma-vilaja jagad-anda-nathah… [Bs. 5.48]

Every universe has got a predominating deity, president. We can understand. In every country, there is a president to rule over the country. Similarly, to rule over this universe, there is a president. That is Brahma, Lord Brahma. Lord Brahma’s duration of life, span of life, you cannot calculate. You can calculate, but it is something like beyond our imagination. His one day is four hundred…, forty-three crores of years, one day. Similarly, one month, thirty days, one month; then twelve months, year. Such hundred years. So he lives such hundred years. So that Brahma lives hundred years in his calculation; that is also a breathing period of Visnu.

yasyaika-nisvasita-kalam athavalambya jivanti loma-vilaja jagad-anda-nathah… [Bs. 5.48]

These gigantic universes, they are coming out from the hair holes of the body of Maha-Visnu or from His… Just like sometimes infected persons, they distribute germs from breathing, from perspiration. That is scientific. Similarly, Maha-Visnu’s breathing and perspiration within the Causal Ocean, bringing forth so many universes. And each and every universe, there are so many planets, and one of the planets is this, earth, earthly planet.

So sometimes this earthly planet was thrown into the water, Garbhodaka-samudra, Garbhodaka Sea, and God took the form of a boar, having two tusks—because it was easier. Just like shovel, you take something like that. So He took the earth. So that is described: ksitir iha vipulatare tisthati tava… No. What is that? Dasana-sikhare? The, this is described in Jayadeva’s prayer. Vasati dasana-sikhare dharani tava lagna. Vasati, “is resting”; vasati dasana-sikhare, “on the top of the tusk.” Kesava dhrta-sukara-rupa jaya jagadisa hare. So He’s yajnesa. It is not that He’s… is shape was just like hog, but He’s not hog. Don’t misunderstand. His shape was a gigantic hog. You can just imagine what kind of hog He was. The shape was like hog, but He was resting the whole planet, earthly planet, on the tusk. Vasati dasana-sikhare dharani tava lagna sasini kalanka, kesava dhrta-sukara-rupa. Here it is stated, saukaram. Saukaram means like hog. Not that He’s hog. He’s yajnesa. He can take any shape. Just like here is, God has assumed the shape of a lion, half- lion, half-man. So He’s all powerful, He can take any shape, any form, but He is not that form. That is for the time being. For the time being, He assumes so many forms. The real form is Krsna, the original form. Kesava dhrta-sukara, sukara-rupa or sukara-rupa. “My Lord Kesava, You have assumed this form.”

So there are many millions and millions of forms of God. According to time, necessity, circumstances, He assumes different forms. Because it is His business:

yada yada hi dharmasya glanir bhavati bharata abhyutthanam adharmasya tadatmanam srjamy aham [Bg. 4.7]

He appears as soon as there is discrepancies in the methodical way. Another place, indrari-vyakulam lokam. Indra. Indra means the heavenly god, and ari means enemy. So indrari, the enemy of the king of heaven. That means demons. There are two classes of beings, human being, in the human state: the devata and asura. So devata means God conscious, Krsna conscious. Anyone who is Krsna conscious, he is devata, demigod. And anyone who is not Krsna conscious, he’s demon. This is the difference. So that demon may be very big or small, it doesn’t matter, but… Asuras tad-viparyayah. Viparyayah means “just the opposite.” The devotees, they are demigods, and asura means just the opposite number of devotee; that means nondevotees. Those who are nondevotees, those who are not devotees of the Lord, they are all demons.

So demons are always disturbing. They’ll create disturbance. That is… Their business is to create disturbance in the creation of the Supreme Lord. So this Hiranyaksa and Hiranyakasipu, two brothers, they were creating so much disturbances. The whole world is disturbed only for the existence of the demons, asuri. At the present moment also, the world is full of demons. The devotees, their number is very, very small. Just like our Krsna consciousness movement. We can count within the finger how many we have got, Krsna conscious; but demons, non-Krsna conscious, nondevotees, there is no limit. Innumerable. So when demons are too much prominent, then Krsna comes. So in the Kali-yuga He has appeared… Just like previously He appeared in the form of hog, similarly, Krsna has appeared in this Kali-yuga in the form of His name. There is no difference between the form and name of God. God is absolute. Nama-rupe, in the form of name. So those who are disturbed by the demons may take shelter of this form of God, Hare Krsna. Then you’ll be saved. Otherwise, the demon will put you within the Pacific Ocean water. Just like this demon. But Krsna will save you. As Prahlada Maharaja was put into the water by his father.

So to become Krsna conscious means there will be so many enemies. Even father, what to speak of others? They will criticize, they will attack. I have recently received letter from Germany. Our devotees were attacked by a gang. So this is the way. As soon as you become God conscious, the demons will create disturbance. Just like Lord Jesus Christ. He was crucified by the demons. The only fault was that he was God conscious. Just see; such innocent person. The world is like that. So these dangers are there, but don’t be afraid of. Krsna will save you. And tolerate. If there are disturbances… Because it is the nature of this material world, as soon as there will be devotee, God conscious person, there will be so many enemies from the side of the demons. So we have to tolerate.

Caitanya Mahaprabhu therefore has recommended:

trnad api sunicena taror api sahisnuna amanina manadena kirtaniyah sada harih [Cc. adi 17.31]

You have to chant Hare Krsna mantra against the demons. Just like in Australia, the demons have instituted a case against us, a big case by the city authorities. So what can be done? They wanted to appoint big, big lawyers. I have advised, “Don’t appoint lawyers. You go on chanting. They may put you in the jail. So you go on chanting.” What is that? You chant on the street or chant on the jail, they’re the same thing. So don’t be afraid. They’ll take you in the jail, “Go on, Hare Krsna.” We have got one means. Narayana-parah sarve na kutascana bibhyati: “Those who are devotees, they are not afraid of anything.” Svargapavarga-narakesv api tulyartha-darsinah: “Either they’re sent in the heavenly planet or in the hell planet, it doesn’t matter.” We want simply to chant Hare Krsna and remember Krsna. That is Krsna consciousness. It doesn’t matter whether it is in the hell or heaven.

So saukaram vapuh. Dvitiyam tu bhavayasya rasatala-gatam mahim, rasatala. We do not know what are the down planets. This is called… Bhur bhuvah svah. This is bhur-loka. Above this, there is bhuvar-loka, svarga-loka; above that, there is jana-loka; above that, there is mahar-loka; above that, there is siddha-loka. In this way, seven upper planetary system, and similarly, there are seven downwards. That is called tala, atala, talatala, rasatala, like that. Tala, atala, vitala, talatala, rasatala. So rasatala, the lowest, that means down the water, rasatala-gatam. Just like this morning we were calculating the depth of the Pacific Ocean. They are sometimes seven miles. So similarly, that Garbhodakasayi, Garbhodaka- samudra. Just imagine how deep it is. So within that deep water, the earth was put, and Krsna in the shape of Varaha saved it. So Krsna will save you. Others may disturb you, put you into the difficulty, but Krsna will save you. Be assured. Don’t be disappointed.

Krsna says, kaunteya pratijanihi na me bhaktah pranasyati. “My dear Kaunteya, you can declare to the world that anyone who is My devotee…” Devotee means pure devotee, anyabhilasita-sunyam [BRS 1.1.11], without any other desires. Devotee means he wants to serve Krsna, that’s all. Not that in return he wants something. He is devotee. Devotion is not business: “Sir, I have come to Your temple. I am offering my obeisances. Now, my salary is five hundred dollars. Kindly make it two thousand.” That is also devotion… Not devotion. That is appreciation of God, that “God can give me.” That is also good. But those who are not coming to the temple, they are miscreants. Na mam duskrtino mudhah prapadyante naradhamah [Bg. 7.15] Those who are lowest of the mankind, miscreants, mudhas, rascals, they do not come even to God for asking something. They think that “We shall create our own…” But those who are pious, even though asking something from God, they are pious, because they have come to God.

So these people, those who are coming to the temple for some material amelioration, they are pious. But those who are not coming, they are duskrtino mudhah, naradhamah. That is the description. But devotee means he does not ask anything from God. He simply wants to give, that is devotee. Just like gopis. They never asked anything from Krsna. (long pause)

Hmm. Now chant. (end)