Morning Walk Conversation
with His Divine Grace A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada
June 22, 1974, Germany

German man: But the people of the country was in the football.

Hamsaduta: This week is the big world football matches, so everyone goes to see that. They either stay at home and watch television or they go to the fields.

Prabhupada: Because they have been taught like that, what is their fault? They do not know the importance of human life. Eat, drink, be merry, enjoy, that’s all. And then become a dog, that’s all. They do not know that. [break] …planets, so many different standard of life. Nothing, they do not know anything. (German)

German man: But the other planets have a more spiritual form than our planet.

Prabhupada: No, material forms. Just like in the water the fish is there. That is also material form. But you cannot live within the water, neither the fish cannot live on the land. So in different planets there are different types of atmosphere and different types of body also.

German man: Yes, yes, I understand.

Prabhupada: You cannot go to the sun planet, you cannot go to the moon planet, because that is a different atmosphere. But there are living entities. They have got their suitable body.

German man: But I think for the people it is difficult to understand.

Prabhupada: Because they are fools. How they can understand? (laughter) Simply fools eating meat and becoming like tiger or dog, that’s all. Tiger may be very strong, but what brain he has got? No brain. (laughing) For brain there must be a brahmana. Satyah samo damas titiksa. He must be qualified. A tiger may attack me and kill me, he is very strong, but that does not mean he has got better brain than me.

German man: Yes, yes, I see.

Prabhupada: So the modern civilization is making tigers, how he can be bodily strong and kill others and discover atomic bomb. They are busy only on these things, the dog’s business, how to attack another dog, That’s all.

German man: This will be a very nice country here for your community.

Prabhupada: Yes, yes.

German man: And I think a very, very, good example for the people around.

Prabhupada: Yes. But the advanced human being they come to shoot here.

German man: Yes. And later it will be finished.

Prabhupada: The animals, they are living in their own atmosphere, and these people, they come to kill them. Killing business has become very prominent at the present moment. And therefore they are being killed in the womb of the mother, abortion and killing child. That they do not know. Nature will not excuse you. You are killing; you will be killed within your mother’s womb. You will never see the light of the sun. Go on being killed one after another, as many animals you have killed. They do not know. And time will come in this age when there will be no food. Man will kill man and eat. That time is coming.

German man: Yes, I see.

Prabhupada: Yes. They are now killing animal, but animal lives on this grass and grains. When there will be no grass, no grains, where they will get animal? They will kill their own son and eat. That time is coming. Nature’s law is that you grow your own food, but they are not interested in growing food. They are interested in manufacturing bolts and nuts, iron, factory, big, big factory. So they will have to eat bolts and nuts. Where they will get food grain? They thought that “Let us eat the animal and manufacture bolts and nuts.” Then when the animal will be finished, then what they will eat?

Satsvarupa: The scientists are making artificial food, so they are not that worried.

Prabhupada: Yes. Yes, that is… That I say bolts and nuts. That artificial food means bolts and nuts. (laughter) Somebody told me that they manufacture artificial butter, and by eating they were vomiting. They were vomiting. There is ample butter supply. Why these rascals are interested in manufacturing artificial butter to show their scientific brain? Just see how they are rascals. They can get… Just like Krsna was stealing his mother’s butter and throwing it to the monkeys. Butter can be produced in that way, that everyone can eat sumptuously. “No, kill the animals, and artificial butter use and vomit.” That’s all. Just see their intelligence. And they are proud of their advanced civilization. The same example, that a man barking as a dog, people will go to see it by purchasing ticket. And they do not see the natural dog is barking. But artificial… they pay ten dollars ticket and see how a man is barking like a dog. You at least introduce in your country: “Chant Christ’s name and stop animal killing.” This is from Bible. This is not that I am asking. Bible says, “Thou shalt not kill, and glorify the name of God.”

German man: Ahimsa.

Prabhupada: Yes. Just in the beginning Christ says, “Thou shalt not kill.” That is the beginning of religious life. The animal killers cannot understand what is God. It is not possible. There is a statement in the Bhagavata, vina pasughnat.

nivrtta-tarsair upagiyamanad bhavausadhac chrotra-mano-’bhiramat ka uttamasloka-gunanuvadat puman virajyeta vina pasughnat [SB 10.1.4]

“Who can remain aloof from the chanting of the holy name of God unless he is an animal killer?” Yes. Animal killers cannot understand what is God, what is God’s name. That’s not possible. (end)