Room Conversation
with Yogi Bhajan and Jain Muni
His Divine Grace A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada
July 21, 1975, San Francisco

Guest (1) (Indian gentleman, probably Yogi Bhajan): (Hindi)

Prabhupada: (Hindi) We have got a picture of Mayapur. (Hindi)

Devotee: From the Caitanya-caritamrta.

Prabhupada: (Hindi) (Conversation continues in Hindi, with second Indian gentleman also. Seem to be discussing Prabhupada’s various centers around the world.) They have lost interest, the younger generation…. (Conversation continues between three)

Yogi Bhajan: As far as Golden Temple is concerned, that is their result… (Hindi) They have lot of temples and a lot of good word, (?) and let them learn to by themselves. (Hindi) I have no time to spoil(?) it. He is great. That is what I want to learn, how he can do that. And I don’t believe that. My territory they define. It starts… It ends at the Suez Canal.

Prabhupada: Suez Canal means whole Mediterranean.

Yogi Bhajan: Yes, Mediterranean. And there I have up to Singapore, Malaysia. So I said, “Well, you have forgotten writing down Burma, and you never wrote a word about India, so good-bye.” That is not our territory. (Hindi)

Prabhupada: (Hindi) Bhoktaram yajna-tapasam sarva-loka-mahesvaram [Bg. 5.29].

Yogi Bhajan: (Hindi) We have the best attorney here in this area, and you are having a trouble with this temple. If you… Somebody if you can call, because in this area he is the best law attorney.

Prabhupada: You can take the address.

Devotee: We have their phone number.

Yogi Bhajan: We won that… Recently he won a very big case. This is our daily fight, but it comes on you sometimes. We fight it daily. We fight before it happens to us. If I was to buy this temple I would have insured the title in a suit case, and I would have filed the suit myself, but on the neighborhood.

Devotee: Yes, well they had approved our moving in.

Yogi Bhajan: That is something later, but I have talked with. That is simple. I would have sued this area. I have heard that I can be damaged, I would have sued them five million dollars, all this area, vicinity. I could have proved it because I would have done it. Moment they would have filed the case, proof was there. I had not to prove. Their own document would have proved it. But you know that attorney they had.

Guest (2) (Indian gentleman): (Hindi)

Yogi Bhajan: So I think here in this case, because this is one of the typical case. Their plea is very simple plea against which you have to come out with a very strong argument. They say it were(?) the temple, a certain frequency. You have changed the frequency, and therefore you have disturbed the environment and the ecology. I studied the entire case. I got all my information and I got it. So that’s their main contention. Now what you have to prove is very ticklish. Therefore each paper must be filed very comparatively right because this is they call invocation of the zonal area. To relieve the pressure on the subsidies of the zones and that lies on a miracle(?). So if your attorney comes down the defense of it, and then you can get under Amendment One and then they can’t touch you. It’s a very, very good fight. We fought it. That’s why… And we won it. They got us on the same point. But what we did was, we had already filed a complaint, or we knew it was going to come. That case went out of the court just like that.

Devotee: We will consult with your attorney.

Yogi Bhajan: No, no, he is expert. They have figured it out. Because we are very conspicuous in this some way. You get away with things, you know, you are all right. But with us it is not “That’s the man. Get him.” (?)

Devotee: We have legal battles wherever we go.

Yogi Bhajan: We have a battle on every step. We wear a kapon (Sikh knife), we have a battle on every step. They say, “It is a knife. You can’t carry it.” We fight every few steps. Social dangers, we have more social aggressive dangers than you. But if you just channel it on a patterned style, you know, pattern thirteen. Now what we fight is this fight is pattern thirteen, fight it. We go, we go through. (Hindi) (Conversation continues)

Devotee: Is Nanda Kumara ready?

Devotee: Nanda Kumara is… Do you want to take here or…?

Prabhupada: No.

Guest (2): In that room. (Hindi)

Prabhupada: World Fellowship…

Guest (2): World Fellowship of Religion. (Hindi)

Prabhupada: (Hindi) You ready?

Devotee: Just preparing. (Hindi)

Guest (2): Good is two words, two o’s. You have to be God first then to be good to anybody. (Hindi) Charity begins from home. (Hindi)

Prabhupada: (Hindi) Namo brahmanya-devaya go-brahmana-hitaya ca. (Hindi) (end)