Srimad-Bhagavatam 6.2.14
by His Divine Grace A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada
Vrndavana, September 17, 1975

Prabhupada: All right. Sanketyam, “indication.”

sanketyam parihasyam va stobham helanam eva va vaikuntha-nama-grahanam asesagha-haram viduh

Everyone should know, viduh. Generally we do not know what is the power of vaikuntha-nama.

namnam akari bahudha nija-sarva-saktis tatrarpita niyamitah smarane na kalah etadrsi tava krpa bhagavan mamapi durdaivam idrsam ihajani nanuragah

Caitanya Mahaprabhu regretted that the holy name of Krsna is so powerful that all the potencies or all the energies in the Absolute Person, the same thing you’ll find in His name, in His form. But these things are not understood by less intelligent class of men. To understand these things means to know Krsna in truth.

manusyanam sahasresu kascid yatati siddhaye yatatam api siddhanam kascid vetti mam tattvatah [Bg. 7.3]

This is tattva, truth, that Krsna, the Supreme Person, His holy name, His form, His attributes, His pastimes, His paraphernalia, His dhama… Just like we are in Vrndavana-dhama. So why Vrndavana- dhama is worshiped? Because the Vrndavana-dhama is not different from Krsna. When you take little dust of Vrndavana-dhama and take it, that means you are taking the dust of Krsna’s lotus feet, and you take it. Vrndavana-dhama, so important.

So Vrndavana-dhama, ordinary man cannot see. Therefore Narottama dasa Thakura says,

rupa-raghunatha-pade haibe akuti kabe hama bujhabo sri yugala-piriti

visaya chadiya kabe suddha ha’be mana kabe hama herabo sri-vrndavana

Vrndavana, if you come from anywhere by the train and airplane and see Vrndavana, that is not seeing Vrndavana. Vrndavana seeing means

visaya chadiya kabe suddha ha’be mana kabe hama herabo sri-vrndavana

When we shall be free from visaya… Visaya means ahara-nidra-bhaya-maithunam. So who can give up visaya unless he is a great devotee? Others cannot. Visaya, it is very difficult. But if one is advanced devotee—param drstva nivartate—they can give up. So if you come to Vrndavana and arrange for a visaya-bhoga—ahara-nidra-bhaya-maithunam—then Vrndavana is far away. Visaya chadiya. The whole Krsna consciousness movement is on the basis of visaya chadiya. And Sri Locana dasa Thakura also sings, visaya chadiya se rase majiya, mukhe bolo hari hari. Visaya chadiya. If… Of course, in the beginning it is not possible, but the ultimate goal of life is to give up visaya—no more ahara-nidra-bhaya-maithuna. That is called visaya chadiya. Just like Raghunatha dasa Gosvami did. He came here, lived in Vrndavana. He was a very, very rich man’s son. Five hundred years ago his father’s income was twelve lakhs of rupees. Now it may be crores of rupees. Five hundred years He was such a rich man’s son. And very beautiful wife. Because Raghunatha dasa Gosvami was restless, he was always trying to go with Caitanya Mahaprabhu, so his father and uncle He was the only son of these two brothers. So they thought that “This boy is very restless. He wants to go away with Caitanya Mahaprabhu. Let him have a very nice, beautiful wife and he’ll be attracted.” But he was not attracted. He was not even going inside the house. He was lying down outside the house, young man. He had no taste for visaya. Visaya chadiya. Therefore later on he became Raghunatha dasa Gosvami. Formerly he was simply Raghunatha, and when he joined Caitanya Mahaprabhu, then he became Raghunatha dasa Gosvami.

So he was eating… He was living in Radha-kunda, you know, all Vrndavana-vasis. He was eating every alternate days a little butter. That’s all. So ahara-nidra-bhaya-maithuna. Nidrahara-viharakadi-vijitau. This is… The more you have become free from nidra, means sleeping; ahara, eating; and vihara, sex; and… Nidrahara-viharakadi. And so far bhaya, a devotee is not fearful of anything.

narayana-parah sarve na kutascana bibhyati svargapavarga-narakesu narakesu api tulyartha-darsinah

A devotee is not interested whether he is going to hell or heaven. Everything is, for him… He knows hell is also kingdom of God and heaven is also kingdom of God. A devotee’s kingdom of God means where he gets the chance of serving the Lord. That is wanted. So sanketyam. Therefore in the Hindu families they keep the name of the children with the God’s name. Just like this Ajamila, although he was a very, very sinful man, still, because the culture was there, he kept his son’s name Narayana. He did not lose the culture, although he was so much sinful. The culture is so important. Still in India, as there is very, very good propaganda to make the people godless atheist, still, you see, find, in Vrndavana thousands and lakhs of people are coming. It is their birthright. Not only in Vrndavana, we have seen wherever we held that Hare Krsna festival, thousands of men were coming. Even the so-called educated. When we held that ceremony in Delhi, L.I.C. Ground, many, many secretaries, officers, they came and they were dancing with their hat-coat-pant. So it is so nice.

So some way or other, if you be in touch with this Hare Krsna movement, then your life is successful.

Sanketyam. You keep your children’s name just like he kept, Narayana. He actually became delivered because he kept his son’s name Narayana. Sanketyam parihasyam. Joking. Sometimes they joke: “Oh, these people are chanting ‘Hare Krsna, Hare Krsna,’ ” and they joke also, “Hare Krsna!” sometimes seriously, sometimes joking. So joking, they are chanting Hare Krsna—that is taken to their credit, although he is joking; he is not serious. Sanketyam parihasyam stobham. Sometimes we make fun. To complete one sentence sometimes we, “Hari,” “Krsna,” we add it. So that is also accepted. And then helanam eva va. Helanam eva va. Just like sometimes in the Western countries there is propaganda, as it was in Germany. Now they are going in Japan: “These Hare Krsna people are very bad.” But he’s chanting Hare Krsna. While saying that “Hare Krsna people are very bad,” but the “Hare Krsna” is chanted. The helanam eva va. And that is going to their credit. Although they are going to say Just like “Rama chor nahe,” and somebody heard, “Nahe Rama chor.” So “Rama chor,” but because he uttered the name Rama, even he says, “Rama chor,” he gets the benefit. Sometimes they joke, “Krsna is Makhanchor.” So he is accusing “chor,” but because he is chanting “Krsna” he is getting the benefit.

So some way or other… Yena tena prakarena manah krsne nivesayet. This is the process. Somehow or other, you engage your mind in Krsna. Yena tena prakarena. Without any regulative principle? Yes. Sarve vidhi-nivesedhah syur etayor eva kinkarah. If you some way or other think of Krsna, then the vidhi-nisedha, vidhi-nisedha, regulative principle and forbidden things Just like we have got our regulative principle that “Chant Hare Krsna mantra at least sixteen rounds.” This is called vidhi. And nisedha: don’t have illicit sex, don’t eat meat, don’t have intoxication, don’t indulge in gambling. These are nisedha. So sarve vidhi-nisedhah syur etayor eva kinkarah. As soon as you go on chanting the holy name of the Lord, vidhi, sixteen round, this nisedha will automatically follow. Yasyasti bhaktir bhagavaty akincana sarvair gunais tatra samasate surah. This is the process.

srnvatam sva-kathah krsnah punya-sravana-kirtanah hrdy antah-stho hy abhadrani vidhunoti suhrt-satam [Bhag. 1.2.17]

This is the process. Somehow or other, yena tena prakarena, you think of Krsna, you chant Krsna’s name, you just offer your obeisances, and… This temple is here. There are many temples. What is the process? Process… If somebody comes here, he immediately think of Krsna. By seeing Krsna’s Deity… Krsna’s Deity and Krsna is not different. So even if he thinks that it is some stone Deity, but Krsna’s stone Deity… Therefore “Krsna’s,” he says—that will benefit him. Some way or other, he is chanting “Krsna.” “Krsna and Balarama is very nice in this temple.” So that “Krsna” and seeing Krsna, thinking of Krsna, chanting Krsna Man-mana bhava mad-bhakto mad-yaji. And if you worship Krsna, offer aratika, bhoga, decorate with flowers Sri-vigraharadhana-nitya-nana-srngara-tan mandira-mar** Even you wash this temple, you get the benefit. Somehow or other, be in touch with this temple, with the holy name, with the Vaisnava. In this way, by constant association—sangat sanjayate kamah—by association of devotees, you become a Krsna devotee.

Actually it is happening. In your country, the Europeans and Americans, say, ten years before the beginning of this movement, you did not know Krsna, every one of you. That’s a fact. How you are now mad after Krsna? It is simply because by association. So association is so important thing. You boys and girls in your country, you were so luxuriously living. Why you have left everything and you are after a beggar sannyasi? It is the association. The association is so strong. Therefore Narottama dasa Thakura says,

tadera carana-sevi-bhakta-sane vas janame janame mor ei abhilas

“Let me engage myself in the service of the Gosvamis and associate with the devotees. I do not want anything.” Janame janame mor ei abhilas. Bhaktivinoda Thakura said that kita-janma hau, jatha tuwa das. This association. “Let me become a worm, not a devotee, even worm.” Kita. Kita means worm, an insignificant ant, worm. Better to remain as an ant with the association of devotees than to become a Brahma without any devotee’s association. Brahma-janme nahi mora as. Bahir-mukha brahma-janme, nahi mora as, kita janma hau, jatha tuwa das. This is Bhaktivinoda Thakura’s hankering. So some way or other, we are propagating this association, Krsna consciousness, International Society for Krsna Consciousness. Why? Why we are establishing so many centers? Just to give the people in general the chance of association. It is very important thing, association. Sangat sanjayate kamah.

So either kama or lobha or bhaya or enviousness, some way or other connect with Krsna. Just like the gopis. The gopis, they liked Krsna. They did not know that Krsna is the Supreme Lord. They did not know. They liked Krsna. He was a very funny boy, young boy, very beautiful, and these girls were attracted. They went to Katyayani: “Mother Katyayani, please give Krsna as our husband.” Their only prayer was that. They did not go to Katyayani for begging: dhanam dehi, rupam dehi, yaso dehi—no. “Give me Krsna. Give me Krsna.” So there is no harm to worship the deity, I mean to say, other demigods. But that is not possible for anyone. That was possible only for the gopis, because they did not know anything except Krsna. Wherever they go, they want Krsna. But we worship demigods not for Krsna—for my sense gratification. Kamais tais tair hrta-jnana yajanty anya-devatah. When we worship any other demigods… Just like you worship Ganesa for siddhi, rddhi-siddhi. You will find in mercantile shop, namo ganesaya namah rddhi-siddhi kurdan mile(?). So similarly, we worship Goddess Durga for beautiful wife. These are prescribed in the sastras, that “If you want this, then you worship this Deity. If you want this, then you worship this Deity.” So different worshipers of demigods, they are meant for satisfying the senses. But Krsna is not that. You cannot satisfy your senses by worshiping Krsna. That is not possible. Krsna is not order-supplier: “My dear Krsna, please give me this. Then I shall worship You.” Krsna does not accept such worship. Krsna said, sarva-dharman parityajya mam ekam saranam: [Bg. 18.66] “You first of all surrender to Me. I am not your order-supplier.” This is Krsna’s worship. So those who are not taking Krsna as order-supplier, those who are accepting Krsna as order-carrier, he will be successful. Otherwise it will take time. Don’t take Krsna as your order-carrier, order-supplier. You become. Hrsikena-hrsikesa sevanam bhaktir ucyate [Cc. Madhya 19.170]. Bhakti means when you engage your senses for satisfaction of Krsna. That is bhakti. And if you take Krsna for satisfying your senses, just like you worship other demigod, that is not bhakti. That is not bhakti.

So helanam eva vaikuntha-nama-grahanam asesagha-haram viduh. So some way or other, if we are engaged in chanting the Vaikuntha- nama Vaikuntha-nama. Vaikuntha is Krsna or Visnu. Vigata-kunthad yasmad iti vaikuntha. Here in the material world you are always filled up with kuntha, anxieties. And if you go to Visnu or Krsna, then there is no more kuntha, full freedom without anxiety. Because even if you realize yourself that you are part and parcel of Parabrahman, when you realize Brahman yourself, not this body, immediately you become jolly. Brahma-bhutah prasannatma na socati na kanksati [Bg. 18.54] There are many sannyasis who are brahmavadi. So as soon as they feel “Aham brahmasmi,” they are no more in anxiety of this material world. And if you increase that— Brahman, Paramatma, Bhagavan That simple Brahman realization, it is knowledge that “I am not this, but I am that.” Neti. But that knowledge will not be sufficient. You have to make progress further because we are by nature anandamaya. Ananda-mayo ’bhyasat. Our nature is to search after ananda. So simply Brahman realization will not give you ananda. Therefore we see sometimes big, big sannyasis, they gave up this world as brahma satyam jagan mithya, but because they could not get ananda, they come down again. Again they become busy in opening hospital and school and philanthropic work, politics, because they could not get ananda. That is the defect of the impersonalists. They can simply understand aham brahmasmi: “I am not this body. I am not matter. I am spirit.” But that much understanding will not help. It may be helpful for some time, but because he is bereft of ananda, he will fall down. Aruhya krcchrena param padam tatah patanty adho ’nadrta yusmad-anghrayah [SB 10.2.32]. Ananda you cannot get without being a servant of the Supreme Lord. That is ananda, reciprocation(?). That is Vrndavana. There is ananda, cinmaya, ananda, because everyone is engaged in the service of Krsna. The cowherd boys, the calves, the cows, the birds, the beasts, the trees, the water, the father, mother, playmates—everyone—Krsna is the center. That is ananda. And if you make Krsna minus, then there is no ananda. You may be Brahman realized, you may be seeing the Paramatma, but there is no ananda.

Thank you very much. Hare Krsna. (end)